User talk:Fizzmaister

Welcome
Hi, welcome to SD Gundam G Generation Wars Wiki! Thanks for your edit to the Exchange values, Ace points and other fun stuff page.

Please leave a message on my talk page if I can help with anything! -- Primer21 (Talk) 19:41, October 12, 2009

Thanks
This is Obiyer, I made a mistake on Original Characters Claire this morning, thanks for fixing it!

Pictures
Hey. I noticed that you have been uploading a lot of pictures and/or changing the code to have the picture(which I don't know how to do) lately. I went through and took a picture of all the pilots that I have and am working on cropping them all in Photoshop. Would you want me to replace your images as I get them done so that the images on the Wikia are from the game and are all consistent? I don't want to take out any of your images without saying anything. ^-^ I'm still working on beating the game, but I've gotten everything but the first few scout links so that's at least a good 150 charcters or so that I have the pictures for.

Edit: Also; sorry for the rather poor image quality but I used a digital camera to take the pictures of all the characters directly off my TV screen XD. Once I figure out a better way to get the images with no distortion or pixelation I'll re-upload all the images. For now I figure they are better than nothing at least lol.

Yeah, I have a video capture card, if you want I can take a bunch screenshots with my card and put them all up on mediafire or something and you can be the designated picture putter upper (lol). Oh also, be sure to sign all of your comments. Either type four tildes (~) or click the signature button at the top of the page. Fizzmaister 23:40, April 11, 2010 (UTC)

I'm not entirely sure how to edit the code to add the picture ability, so I have just been putting pictures up when you change the code lol, but I'll do my best to get pictures up for everyone.

I also had another idea which may be worth doing. Might I suggest that we add a page that, much like the option parts, only list characters? This would be useful for quick character lookups (For a Wars Break for example). I know for me personally I would look at the Wars Break and go, "Who the Heck is X?" and then I would Google the character only to find that some of the time there weren't really any pictures of them to figure out who it was. The format could be something like the following but in a neat and organized table:

(Picture) - (Character Name) - (Series)

(Picture) - (Domo Kasshu) - (G Gundam)

This would make a "CTRL-F" search for a character nice and easy because they would all be on one page. Also; while I was typing this, I thought of another idea. Perhaps on the main character page we already have, we should add a box for what the characters main mobile suit is. For example Athrun 1 is Aegis/Saviour, Athrun 2 is Justice/Infinite Justice. This way it would be easy for people to figure out who to pair with what suits to get the special attacks, abilities etc.

Madcap888 17:34, April 13, 2010 (UTC)

Alright, I cropped, uploaded and changed the code for all the images that you gave me. It looks great to have everything uniform. Let me know what you think. I feel kind of sad though. All the pictures I took with my camera are totally useless with your actual screen-caps. :P

Madcap888 18:50, April 13, 2010 (UTC)

Alright the next batch is just about done. I'm afraid I don't know how to edit the code to make everything have images and be the same layout as the others though, so if I could get you to set up the layout with the images on the ones I skipped, I'll finish uploading the rest of the images. I also need the "Corin Nander (Suit)" Image from Turn A Gundam.

Madcap888 06:09, April 15, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. What you're doing is great. Photochopping is far too tedious for me. Yeah, I noticed I didn't get the alt image for Corin Nander. I needed to buy him to get a picture. I already have it, I'll just upload it with the next batch. The thing is, there isn't too much of a reason for me to upload a new batch right now, because no other series has the picture code in, changing the code is tedious because I don't want to leave half done entries, unless it's like what I did with V Gundam, that I just put up the format with no information. Also adding pictures to the old format is a terrible idea. Take a look at the Gundam Wing Characters page to see what I mean.

Fizzmaister 08:32, April 15, 2010 (UTC)

Just Curious
I saw that you made a bunch of changes to pages I just did major updates to, but didn't see any edit summaries on the changes you made so I'm not sure what's different. I just wanted to check in and make sure I didn't screw a whole bunch of stuff up when I edited those pages before.

Madcap888 16:22, April 18, 2010 (UTC)

Nope, nothing you did wrong. Take a look at the top of the pages, and you'll see what I did.

Fizzmaister 00:11, April 19, 2010 (UTC)

Ah gotcha. Nicely done. Also, since I'm already posting I'm might as well ask a couple questions here. This image means that the unit you are evolving to is the final version of the unit and has all the attacks and specials when paired with the proper pilot.
 * 1) Have you gotten the chance to think about the previous idea I posted?
 * 2) What do you think about having some kind of a "generic translation page" where images are posted and Photoshopped to have the text in English. For example; I still have no idea what the red box is in the Gundam picture when you evolve a unit. All I know is that it means that it is the real version of that unit and has all the attacks/specials etc.. (Example below. Yes it looks bad; yes it's tiny. I didn't want to take up to much space and it's just a concept image. Also, I don't actually know what the text in the red box means so it would probably say something different. :P)

Madcap888 00:28, April 19, 2010 (UTC)

About having the list of characters + picture + series, sounds great. I'm putting you in charge of that. *evil laugh.* Although, what you could do is take the character ability chart and add links to the appropriate series character lists. About the second one, I think I know what you're saying. And my answer is maybe. What I was planning on doing was after finishing the character pages, do the MS lists. And when that's done, do individual pages for each MS showing what they evolve from, what they evolve into what the can combine with, what they can be combined from, special abilities. So on and so forth. Also somewhere in there I want to do menu translations, I don't know exactly when, but that needs to get done.

Fizzmaister 07:56, April 19, 2010 (UTC)

About the Capture Value
Do you happen to have a list of the captureable units ?

Because I don't find anything about that, and I don't know if the GN-X is a 0 or a -1 =X

Yup, right here. Or the translated version. The GN-X is a -1. It seems that the only A.D. unit that's captureable is the Tieren space type.

Fizzmaister 14:35, June 1, 2010 (UTC)

Armadillo ?
It doesn't seem to have any differences with a regular WaD, so I just linked it to the WaD page for now. Should we write a note about that ? Should we just keep it at that (that's what the japanese wiki did) ? Or should we just completely delete it from the list ?

Anyway, I'm done with the Turn A units I guess =)

Hell tanuki 12:18, June 4, 2010 (UTC)

The armadillo is what the Earth Militia Forces called the WaDs that they captured. So I'm assuming that's what you get whenever you put in an Earth Militia person into it.

Fizzmaister 15:21, June 4, 2010 (UTC)

Good day
Greetings, I'm new here, but I would like to contribute. I can help with taking pictures of ships, characters or units from the profile gallery page. Clear shots! :) I have already started uploading some pictures for the units. Will go through the wiki and upload accordingly.Kr0zBoNE 18:06, June 10, 2010 (UTC)

Hello~
Hi there Fizzmaister~

I'm kinda new to this wikia thingy but not the game! And that I want you to know that this site helps me a lot with the game and now that I already beat it, thanks to the site. So, I think its better for me to contribute what I've gone through with the game isn't it? And ya, I don't know Japanese so it might be limited what can I do here, I'll see what I can help. Cheer.

Regards

Lord Rexus

Turn A, Nu and other Alpha...
Do you think I should stick with using the special symbol (e.g. ∀) or should I change the existing ones to all-letters (e.g. Turn A) ? It seems I'm having problem to create a link for the Galbaldy β, it says there is an error so I went with Galbaldy Alpha (didn't do the Beta page yet). I think it would be easier to find the pages you want with all-letters names, like Nu Gundam or Xi Gundam, but I prefer to ask you directly before starting to move all the concerned preexisting pages. If you're ok with it, I'll do my best to do it properly (but I don't know how to delete useless pages yet). Hell tanuki 08:25, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

I'm leaning towards symbols, let me take a look at the Galbaldy β, and I'll give you a final verdict later.

Fizzmaister 08:27, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

I don't know what the issue was, but I made the page just fine. And about the searching problem, just create a redirect from the spelled out page so, for example Turn A Gundam (Basic) would redirect to ∀ Gundam (basic). That should solve all of the problems.

Fizzmaister 08:32, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

Well, the real problem is that I can't make a link to Galbaldy β on the Galbaldy Alpha page, I tried to type it manually or with the auto-earch function, I am just unable to create this one. Thanks for your help btw ^^

Hell tanuki 11:07, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

Man, I'm stupid ! I just had to do the link manually in the source text... sorry for bothering you ='(

It works perfectly this way. Btw, I added some redirects and I'll do it as I create new concerned pages.

Hell tanuki 09:22, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

Unit, EV and stats-upping built-in OP
Sorry to bother you again, but I'm facing yet another problem. Some unit, like the Blue Destiny Unit 1 have a little boost with OPs like Magnet Coating. The problem here, is that more stats means higher EV, but only when you exchange this unit for another. So, the game use the basis EV cost of the unit when you want to get it through exchange (because innate OPs are not factored in), but does count the stats-upping OPs when you want to exchange it for something else, giving the unit 2 distinct EVs.

So, what should we do ? Do we keep the 2 EVs in the same slot ? Do we create another EV box when this case occurs ? Do we simply ignore the second EV, as it isn't really useful, because an unit's EV can't be a reliable data for the unit you want to give, because you must give it at least 1 level anyway, changing his EV in the process ?

And while we're at it, should I factor in the stats-upping built-in OPs when writing an unit's stats ? I did it for TRANS-AM System, but there were a lot of others changes. I can simply add a remark beside the concerned skill, saying it is already factored in or not... What do you prefer ?

Thank you again.

Hell tanuki 11:51, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

i think it would be easier to just stick with the purchase ev points. Like you mentioned, the selling ev aren't useful. Fizzmaister 03:23, June 19, 2010 (UTC)

Ok, I'll go that way then. I'll apply it to the dedicated and command type units too, because I calculated manually their EV before but that's useless when I think about it. Thanks !

Hell tanuki 10:36, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

Warships?
Hi, is there any decision to create a warships page? Probably in the future? Kr0zBoNE 08:31, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, I will start on them once the unit pages are going smoothly. PS, don't forget to sign your comments.

Fizzmaister 08:29, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

Oopps! Sorry about that, I need make it habit, haha! Great, I would like to help in acquiring stats and pictures once we have the warships up! Kr0zBoNE 08:31, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

If you want, you can start making a warship template, while you wait for hell tanuki to make more unit pages. Run it by me and you can start making warship pages.

Fizzmaister 09:33, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

I've just made a warship list template under my profile. Quite like the unit lists, except without the EXP column and the inclusion of the Teams/Units and Capture Case columns. :D

Just to note, there are a total of two warships in the game that can transform, both from Victory Gundam. Kr0zBoNE 10:37, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

Character Names
I've noticed while putting up the millions of character images that there are a couple variences in some of the files and wanted to get your opinion on them. I'll list a few examples since I can't remember them all.

Most recently I was putting in the image names and noticed that they varied from the character names listed: A while ago, and the only example I can remember (though that doesn't mean there aren't more) of this scenario: In my search page I want to make sure that the names are correct, especially since people are going to be "CTRL-F"ing to look for a character. Any thoughts on the subject?
 * Neo Lorrnoke was listed as Neo Roanoke in the image name and for all intents and purposes I can't tell which is more proper though Roanoke is on the official wikis etc.
 * Stella Loussier was listed as Stellar Loussier in the image name and as far as I can tell they are both correct which begs the question which one do we use?
 * Andrew Waltfeld was listed as Andrew Waltfield in the image name and it looks like Waltfeld is right I think.
 * Puru Two and Elpeo Puru are also known as Ple Two and Elpeo Ple if I'm not mistaken. I'm not sure where I learned that, but that is what I've always know her as for some reason. English subs or wiki or something maybe?

Madcap888 18:19, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

When possible use the names from Gundam Official. They're a great source formerly run by Mark Simmons. About the Purus. This is how it's written and pronounced in Japanese "エルピー・プル, Erupī Puru." It's a pun on a hentai magazine called Lemon People, or just "L People." To preserve the pun, sometimes her name is transliterated as Elpeo Ple; say it fast and it sounds like "L People." The problem is that this isn't one of those cases where the terminal "u" is almost silent and the "r" sounds like a blend of "r" and "l," it is quite clearly Puru, just like an English speaker would pronounce it. So, since the pun doesn't make sense if one isn't aware of what "Lemon People" is and why it's sometimes called "L People," and since the pronunciation is "Puru," I think it's best to keep them as "Elpeo Puru" and "Puru Two" Fizzmaister 23:14, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

Unit List tables
Yo, it seems that inserting a hyphen somehow kills the table and messes up the formatting. Is it some specific character code or something? I even tried copy and paste. How did you guys do it lol? Kr0zBoNE 17:59, June 23, 2010 (UTC)

" -" space dash. If you take a look at the source page, "|-" means "next row," "| -" means write a dash in this cell.

Fizzmaister 18:05, June 23, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, I see! Thanks a lot! I'm gonna finish working on the unit lists. Currently at Victory Gundam now. Kr0zBoNE 18:07, June 23, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. Some of the pages still aren't complete, (missing alt forms and all that). I'll get on that later, but I have work to do right now.

Fizzmaister 18:11, June 23, 2010 (UTC)

Fighting to Melee - Done
I just finshed up changing all the words "Fighting" to "Melee" in the character pages. I marked it as done in the "To Do" list also.

Madcap888 03:17, June 28, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, I'm glad I made that page.

Fizzmaister 05:05, June 28, 2010 (UTC)

You're welcome!
I still have more game mechanics things to write here, mostly from the Japanese wiki and some experiments myself, perhaps I'll create a new article on those. If you can, can you help me to experiment on what affects warship's taken damage? Like how I did with the accuracy and evasion thing. You can try a warship with all 6 crews having 300+ Ace points, then try a stage, save before starting the stage, then try taking a damage. After that, load, use all 300 Ace Points (to make the difference more noticable) on a single stats on one crew (this way it will be more accurate, since only one factor is changed), then do the stage again. Repeat this until you got all the deciding factors. Thanks!!

SuiseiHiyoko 17:59, July 17, 2010 (UTC)

Character Search Page
Hey Fizzmaister; I know this probably won't reach you since you appear to be on a well-earned break from editing, but if there's a way for me to add the character search page officially to the Wikia can you leave a quick blurb saying how I can go about doing that? I can't figure out how so I'm assuming I don't have the permission to do this since I'm not in charge of this Wikia page. Also; Rest up now because the next G Generation game is coming out February 24th 2011 so we'll have our work cut out for us again XD.

Madcap888 00:48, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

You can just paste it here. http://ggenwars.wikia.com/wiki/Character_Search

Fizzmaister 00:52, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! I just put it up. I'm glad to see the page is finally live. I've actually been using it off of my Talk Page for the past week since I started playing the game again so I know it works XD.

Madcap888 01:13, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

New Homepage
Hey Fizzmaister. I've taken the theme from the new G Gen World Wiki I started and applied it to the G Gen Wars Wiki. What do you think? The Wars Wiki has been in serious need of a facelift to make the page more pleasant to visit for a while and once I found a good style for the World Wiki I decided to use it for the Wars Wiki as well.

Madcap888 19:11, December 22, 2010 (UTC)

It rocks, keep up the good work.

Fizzmaister 20:01, December 22, 2010 (UTC)

Quick Inheritance Question
I wanted to leave an additional note on the Inheritance page that just came to my mind while I was playing but I wanted to check with you first to make sure I was right. If you have a unit that already has inheritence and you evolve it or exchange it again it loses the inheritence even if you put the 36 points into the same stats to get the same inheritence correct? Example:

I have been maxing out the EN on my 00 because I've been doing a one unit/no warship only run and I need a lot of EN. After getting the Raiser system, I exchanged 00 to 00(Raiser). Naturally it had the Inheritance for EN since I have put in a million points in EN already (unit level 43). As far as I know, when I evolve to 00(Raiser GN Sword III), the Inheritance will be lost even if I am careful to put inheritence on EN again. This means I will have to evolve to 00(Raiser GN Sword III), then back to 00(Raiser), then back to 00(Raiser GN Sword III) for EN inheritence again.

I'm sure this is the way it works, but it seems stupid that the game doesn't lock inheriteance once a unit gets it. If I get a unit to have EN inheritance, then I should be able to evolve and exchange it anywhere and keep the EN inheritance. If I want different inheritance in ATK or something else then I buy a new unit and start over again, simple as that. I hope you tell me I'm horribly mistaken because it would save me a lot of work XD. Either way I'll add the new information to the inheritance section as it is important to know.

Madcap888 03:06, December 24, 2010 (UTC)

Almost correct. The unit will lose the first inheritance, but it will gain the new inheritance if it qualifies. So you should be able to keep the same inheritance for 00 Raiser (GN Sword III), if you mee the requirements.

207.224.19.12 07:07, December 24, 2010 (UTC)

Umm, that was me.

Fizzmaister 07:09, December 24, 2010 (UTC)

Naming question
Just a quick question, is "Eterna Frail" the official naming? I kind of feel sorry for her getting called "Frail" (although she does look kind of frail =p)

--Natural-log 07:16, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

Everywhere I looked shows Frail. Also, there are no official translations, so the best practice is consistency. It's one of the most annoying parts of transliteration between such different languages as Japanese and English, it's very imprecise. The best practice for something that will eventually get translated is to not get attached to any particular naming scheme until the official English spellings come out. Unfortunately, the best strategy for something which stands no chance of ever getting officially translated, like this game, is for the first person doing a fan-translation to pick names, and stick with them, and keep repeating it until everyone agrees with it. In other words, stick with "Frail" because that's the way we've done things and that's the way we'll continue to do things. Fizzmaister 07:23, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

I see, I just thought there should be better naming than "Frail". Since from フレイル you can get something like Flare, Flail, or Flair. Well, I guess there's no helping it. On a not-so-related note, I once misread "Eterna Frail" as "Eternal Fail".

--Natural-log 08:19, 27 January 2011 (UTC)